QUESTIONS THAT SHROUD THE CC SAGA (BC)

A certain Datin from Calvary Church is going around the Christian community to recruit prayer warriors to pray against the TTG and CT.  A sister from another church was approached by this Datin, who (with her husband, Ray) are good friends of Senior Pastor Prince and Sister Petrina.  This other church sister did not know what to make of such an "un-Christian"  request.  Christians are taught to pray even for our enemies.  How come Christians are being recruited to pray against other Christians?

She brought this up with another Calvarite who is presently seeking religious asylum in her Church.  This Calvarite explained to her that the TTG would not respond to such unchristian behavior and assured her that the TTG had not been praying against anyone.  Instead they have been praying for the church, the pastors, the deacons and fellow Calvarites and have consistently encouraged others to pray similarly.  

However, the other church sister was disturbed by the newspaper reports and wondered if there was any way to avert the bad publicity that had been generated.  From the questions asked, it was obvious that the sister was ignorant of the issues behind the Calvary saga.  Therefore CT felt the need to re-inform Calvarites and the Christian community on what had happened in Calvary Church these past two years.  The following FAQs are extracted from materials available in our archives.

Q1.  What started the crisis and how did it start?

A.  At the 2007 AGM, in response to two questions asked by a Concerned Member, Senior Pastor Prince Guneratnam (PG) told members that Calvaryland, a social concern project with assets worth about RM17 million, and the ten “Extended Ministries” included in the organization chart were not reflected in the accounts and financial statements of the church.   

Subsequently, the Concerned Member met with two Associate Pastors, three Deacons and the secretary of the Missions committee to understand why this was so.  He then wrote to the Board of Deacons or BOD in December 2007 to request that this be corrected and that the accounts of Calvaryland and the Extended Ministries be given to the members at the next AGM.  (Read the letter in CT,  The Extended Ministries”.)   

Instead of responding to him, PG announced to a meeting of Church leaders on 1-03-08 that the Extended Ministries did not belong to the church and what is given to Missions must not be questioned by the givers.  This started members questioning how it could be that ministries like the selling of DVDs, the Prayer Tower, the Bookshop, the Home Schooling centre (CERC), the counseling service (CLM), the short term Bible School (AIM), the Calvary printing press and of course, the RM17 million Calvaryland project not belong to the church.  The ministries were funded by the church from our giving and managed by personnel from the church.  If they do not belong to the church who do they belong to?  The quick answer from PG was that they were independent.

At the 2008 AGM, members were told in no uncertain terms that the accounts of the Extended Ministries would not be given to the members because these ministries did not belong to the church. This stand was taken by PG even after our Church Auditor told the meeting that the accounts of the Extended Ministries should be consolidated with the main church accounts or annexed thereto. After a lengthy debate an Associate Pastor called for a vote.  Surprise! Surprise! The majority of members voted that the accounts of the Extended Ministries must be given to the members.  For the first time the members voted against the stand of the Senior Pastor.  

So at the 2009 AGM, members received the accounts of the Extended Ministries as annexed to the main accounts.  The above are facts which PG and the Board could not deny.  However, there remained unanswered questions:

a) Why did PG and BOD decide that the Extended Ministries did not belong to the Church when the funding came from the Church and the ministries were managed by personnel from the Church?

b) Why was this not made known to the members earlier?

c) Why were the members not asked to approve this unusual decision?

d) What was the motive to keep them as independent of the Church and thereby not needed to submit the accounts to the members?

e) If these ministries did not belong to the church then to whom do they belong to?

f) Why the reluctance to be transparent and accountable for these activities which are all part of the Church ministries?

The 2009 accounts of the extended ministries showed the following:

Extended Ministries	Person-in-charge	Accumulated  Fund	Cash & Bank Balance
Asian Institute of Ministries	Pam Guneratnam	50,565	45,368
Calvary Book Corner	Jim Guneratnam	84,865	76,868
Calvary Caring Ministry	Rev Yow Kit Yen	48.459	49,756
Calvary Communication	Jim Guneratnam	1,006,333	842,408
Calvary Church Press	Ps Jerry Chow	29,457	33,559
Calvary Edu Resource Ctr	Katherine Lee	270,239	94,839
Calvary Life Ministries	Pam Guneratnam	596,663	562,196
Calvary Prayer Tower	Ps Timothy Ong	28,053	27,510
Calvary Relief & Devt Agency	Ps Steven Kum	360,365	360,400
Calvaryland Fund	Ps Shireen Wong	6,390,438*	192,133
Creative Arts Centre	Ps Christopher Lee**	41,189	44,666
Calvary Sunshine Home	Rev Sally Leong	83,191	89,134

*Cost of land not included.  Market value about RM10 million.

**Husband of Pam Guneratnam.

Q2.  Since the accounts of the Extended Ministries are now given to the members why is the crisis continuing?

A.  The Extended Ministries appeared to be settled when the members forced PG to give the accounts.  However, in the process of following up on the detailed accounts of the Missions department, four other Concerned Members discovered the “CIM transactions”. 

Calvary International Ministries or CIM was set up in 2002 as PG’s personal ministry.  At that time, the Church contributed RM30,000 to CIM as an anniversary gift to PG for his 30 years of service.  This was announced to the Church, so we all knew about the RM30,000.  However, the four Concerned Members discovered that about RM1.9 million was subsequently transferred from the Missions Department to CIM  from 2002 to 2007. This sum comprise of an annual transfer of RM200,000 from 2004 to 2007 and another RM500,000 of Designated Offerings. The Church and the members were never informed of these transfers.

The transfers stopped in 2008 when these secret transfers were exposed by the TTG.  The first Concerned Member then wrote to the PG and the BOD suggesting a way to resolve the issue and for the Church to move forward. (Read the letter   “Healing and Reconciliation" 3rd Update)

Even with the unexpected exposure, the BOD refused to acknowledge any mistake or wrong doing. They even engaged a forensic accountant and a criminal lawyer to vindicate themselves.  So at the EGM in August 2008, PG made it abundantly clear that the money given to CIM, would be kept in the CIM bank account to fulfill the objectives of CIM.

Subsequently, in November 2008, PG announced that the RM1.1 million still in CIM bank account would be “released” back to the Church.  It was NOT a change of heart.  After investigating a complaint from a Concerned Member, NECF concluded that CIM did not qualify to be a member of NECF.  CIM was then removed as a member of NECF.   The Assemblies of God General Council then investigated and concluded that there was some misrepresentation when CIM applied for NECF membership.  With its membership in NECF removed CIM could not maintain a bank account.  The balance RM1.1 must be moved.  So PG had no choice but to return it to the Church.  

Although the money is now in the Church account we suspect that it is still earmarked for PG’s use, at his discretion.  Nothing has changed despite all these revelations and disclosures. 

The unanswered questions are:

a) When the transfers were highlighted to the BOD by the four Concerned Members initially, the BOD appeared to be ignorant of the transactions.  However, they now claim that these transfers were approved by the BOD.  How come?

b) If the funds in CIM are only to finance PG’s international travels, why were the transfers (RM200,000) so much higher than his yearly travelling expenses of about RM50,000? 

c) Why did the BOD agree to build up the fund in CIM continuously at the rate of about RM150,000 a year?

d) If not exposed would the transfers have continued indefinitely?

e) If there was nothing wrong with the transfers, why the fanfare on the first RM30,000 and then the secrecy on the subsequent RM1.9 million?

Q3.  Whatever it is, the money has now come back to the Church.  Why are you all still unsatisfied?  

A.  The issues of the Extended Ministries and CIM are just symptoms of a more crucial problem in Calvary Church.  It is the almost absolute power that PG can exercise.  With his control of the Board of Deacons, everything he does, can be ratified by the BOD later even though they were not aware of it earlier.  For example, he made a unilateral decision to give a love gift of US$10,000 to Pastor Guynes for chairing an EGM.  He then had it confirmed by the Board later.   There are no checks and balances.  To have better governance the Constitution must be changed.  (Read the article,  The Need for Constitutional Amendments”)

Another fundamental issue is the extra-constitutional powers and authority of the Missions Department. This department which receives all our Faith Promise giving, monthly Missions offerings and Designated offerings, amounting to a few million ringgit a year is not covered by the Church Constitution. It operates from a Missions Manual which had not been approved by the Church members. Most members did not even know of its existence.  The BOD also has little or no control over its decisions and operations.  PG cleverly removed the BOD from having oversight of the money in the Missions Department.  He and the Missions Director, who is appointed by him, has control over this Missions money.  The operation of the Missions Department must be covered by the Constitution.  

Questions that still need to be asked:

a) Why did the BOD not insist that the Missions Manual be approved by the members?

b) Why the auditors who are all professionals allowed this deception to continue for so many years?

c) Why is the BOD supporting PG in maintaining the status quo when it is so obvious that the Constitution must be changed?

Q4.  Why can’t the Constitution be changed without all these bad publicity?

A.  The Concerned Members first tried to get the BOD to look at the Constitution through a Petition signed by 158 members submitted to the BOD on 15.03.2008, just before the 2008 AGM. The petition appealed to the BOD to review the Constitution with the view of improving governance.  There was no response from PG or the BOD.  

From then till 15.07.2008 various Concerned Members met with PG and the BOD in the hope of getting an Independent Committee to be set up to review the Constitution but without any success. Subsequently, on 15.07.2008 another Petition supported by 146 signatures was submitted to the BOD.   In addition to the independent Truth Committee and Constitution Review Committee, another request was submitted for PG to retire as Senior Pastor of the Church as he had already reached the retirement of 60 years old.  Again there was no response from PG or the BOD.

  

When the BOD called for an EGM on 15.08.08 to explain the CIM transactions, seven Resolutions were submitted for tabling before the members.  The resolutions called for the setting up of a Truth Committee, a Constitution Review Committee and for the members to ratify PG’s reappointment as Senior Pastor since PG has passed the retirement age of 60 years pursuant to the Church Staff Handbook.  All the resolutions were rejected by the BOD and were not tabled.    

Similar Resolutions were again submitted to the 2009 AGM held on 15.06.2009.  Once again PG and the BOD rejected the Resolutions submitted by the Concerned Members from being tabled for the members to vote on.

Besides trying to get the issues to be placed before the members of the church, we had also tried to get the AOG General Council to resolve the issues.  However, they seem unable or unwilling to act. 

Some Unanswered questions are:

a) As a Congregational Church, why are the members not allowed to decide on such important decisions?

b) Why is the AOG allowing PG and the BOD to exercise such powers that take away the rights of members?

c) Why is PG and the BOD afraid to face the members’ decision when the TTG are prepared to accept whatever the members should decide on? 

Q5.  Have you tried to get help from the Assemblies of God (AOG)?

A.  The AOG had been kept informed from the very beginning and appeals have been made for them to intervene to stop the escalating conflict.  However, for whatever reason they may have, they are unwilling or unable to do so.  In fact the Deputy General Superintendent chaired the AGM at which the seven Resolutions were thrown out.  You must remember that PG was General Superintendent for 26 years and is now the General Superintendant Emeritus.  He is the biggest "shot" in AOG world in Malaysia.  Also the AOG is controlled by pastors and they may have an unintentional but natural biasness.

If you look at the AOG Constitution and the Calvary Church Constitution you would notice that Calvary Church is not in compliance with the requirements of the AOG.  Yet the CC Constitution was approved by the AOG and no one in the AOG dares to even raise the issue. Make a comparison yourself. For the AOG Constitution go to http://www.ag.org.my/ to download a copy. All Calvary Church members can get a copy of the Calvary Church Constitution from the Church office.

Q6.  What about NECF?

A.  They actually have no authority over PG.  They can only persuade.  We were told that they tried to mediate but without success.  Again remember PG was the Chairman for 8 years and is now the Advisor to the NECF Council.

Q7.  What about AOG America?

A.  AOG Malaysia is not under AOG USA.   Letters had been copied to various leaders in AOG USA but  no response was received from them.  A Concerned Member actually wrote to Pastor Delmer Guynes after he came to chair the EGM on 15.08.08.  He did not even get the common courtesy of a reply.  Instead Guynes wrote an Open Letter to the members saying that there is nothing wrong in getting CCC designed by a freemason.  What he said in the letter was totally out of what was requested of him.

Q8.  Why go to court?  Are you not afraid of 1 Corinthians 6:4?

A.  You must have heard that a verse taken out of context is a pretext.  Most Christians have not made a study of this verse much less have a proper understanding of why, when and under what circumstances Apostle Paul made that statement.  CT did.  (To read the three articles   “Christian Lawsuit  by Dr Paul Nah”, “Christian Involvement in Lawsuits by Dr George Wood”,  “When It’s Right to go to court by Doug Goins”, click on:  LAW  AND THE CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE         

CT is convinced that Christians are not barred from taking another Christian to the secular Court, but it has to be the last resort.   We believe the plaintiffs had cleared the five questions asked by George Wood in his paper before proceeding to Court.  After all they are not suing anyone for anything.  They are merely asking the Court to declare the 2009 AGM null and void and for the seven Resolutions to be tabled before the members for a vote. 

Q9.  But why go to the newspaper?

A.  If you heard that a group of Concerned Members marched to the Star office and demanded that they publish their article, then you have been lied to.  No one went to the Star office.  Two reporters were sent by the Star to interview one of the TTG at his office.  This story is of public interest.  CC attracts people from the public to attend its events and also collects money from the public at the CCC fund raisers and events held in the stadiums.  The public has the right to be assured that there is accountability and transparency in the Church.

Q10.  Is it true that money collected for the Indonesian Earthquake ended up in CIM?

A.   Absolutely.  The money was never sent to Indonesia.  It was kept in the Missions department and later ended up in CIM.  This money came from the public. 

Q11.  What about the other items alleged in the newspaper article?

A.  They are all true.  For the church secretary to say that they are baseless was a blatant lie.  The transactions did take place.  They tried their best to explain them away; usually by saying that the Board had approved them.   These attempts to explain are recorded in the minutes which proved that the transactions took place. Furthermore, by the fact that they did not openly deny those transaction but to merely state that the Board approved it shows that the transactions were real and true.

Q12.  Why the demo?

A.  After 400 members were sacked we could turn to no one to help us.  The sacking was to stop the members from attending the AGM, asking questions on the accounts and submitting Resolutions to be tabled at the AGM.  When you cannot get help from anyone the only choice is to make it known publicly.  Maybe the Christian public and the leaders would wake up and do something.  It is not just about the 400 sacked members.  It is about the integrity and abuse of powers in a Christian Church.

Q13.  Have you tried mediation and arbitration?

A.  In November 2009 a prominent Calvarite and the AOG General Superintendant arranged for the two sides to meet.  The place, time and date were all agreed.  Just two days before the meeting PG said “the date is not convenient”.  That date was agreed to by him at least a week before but suddenly it was not convenient.  He does not want to meet because meeting means compromise, give and take.  He is not prepared to give anything.  He wants to keep the status quo with him having full and complete control of the Church.

Q14. If PG is so bad why are the Deacons and Associate Pastors still supporting him?

A.   They don’t have much of a choice.  They were made to swear an oath of total allegiance and secrecy.  As they supported PG initially in some not so clear violations, they got slowly slowly sucked in.  Before you know it they are too deep to come out.  They are also not allowed to read the CT blog, or talk to anyone from the TTG side or talk to independent parties about the problems.  They have put fear in people by labeling the TTG as evil and satanic. That is why you have a Datin from the Church now recruiting prayer warriors to pray against TTG, even to the point of approaching Christians from other Churches to join in their Crusade. The questions that arise from this:

a) What does the Datin expect these prayer warriors to say to God? 

b) Is it wrong to ask the Pastor and  Church leadership for TRUTH, TRANSPARENCY AND GODLY GOVERNANCE in the Church?

c) Would any God fearing Christian approach the throne of God with a prayer that calls down "hell, fire and brimstones" on another person, let alone another child of God?

It had been suggested to the Deacons and Associate Pastors to find out and understand the truth from the Concerned Members.  So far none of them dared or bothered to. It was also suggested that they meet with the prominent Calvarite to find out the truth about what happened to the meeting, either individually or as a group. He is willing to make time so that he is easily accessible to any one of them. Again none of them dared or bothered to.  So the Deacons and the Pastors only know what PG wants them to know.

Q15.  What next?

A.  We don’t know.  The Concerned Members are led by God one step at a time.  Only He knows.

Q16.  What should you do?

A.  You should query the Deacons and the Associate Pastors on the statements made by CT above.  Ask them for explanations and answers to the unanswered questions.  Do not allow them to brush you away with general statements like, “The allegations are all baseless.”  Ask them which part is baseless and put their reply on CT.  CT would then respond to them.

Please continue to pray for :

a)  The character of our Lord Jesus Christ to be evident in His people and in His church. 

b) Righteousness, holiness and Christian love to return to Calvary Church.  

c) All the parties involved that they will be enlightened with the truth and that they will have the courage to respond and act according to the truth.

d)  The Will and Purposes of God to be fulfilled and accomplished soon in this whole saga, so that His people and His church will be purified and ready for a great revival in Malaysia. 

(Posted in Calvary Today also)

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Telekom Malaysia Berhad (TM) wishes to announce that its consortium members have detected a cable fault on the Southeast Asia-Middle East-Western Europe 4 (SMW4) submarine cable network between Alexandria in Egypt and Palermo in Italy linking Malaysia to Europe and the United States (US). The consortium will be carrying out repair works on site on Saturday, 24 April 2010 and it is expected to be completed on Sunday, 2 May 2010. During the restoration process, there will be some interruption to the traffic to Europe and the US carried through that cable. TM is taking active steps to minimize disruptions; we have added additional links on other routes and coordinated with other international carriers in order to provide additional bandwidth for our customers.


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Added on 8 May 2010 and posted in CT.

We have not been concern over this as we have the assurance from God that He is in control and He has a higher purpose in allowing this to happen.

We received this assurance from God last Saturday when we sought Him for wisdom and guidance in this issue.  

Be joyful always; pray continually; give thanks in all circumstances, 

for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. 

- 1 Thessalonians 5:16 - 18 - 

We have remained silent because we believe that God wants us to focus our attention to intercede for our nation in this month of May. Many have told us that they have been reading Berita Calvary since they could not access Calvary Today. This we believe is the work of God, who always directs us to fulfill a higher purpose for His Kingdom and in this month of May, our calling as Christians in Malaysia is, to PRAY FOR OUR NATION.

There are two major events that has been organized to rally Christians in the whole nation together to pray for Malaysia. 

1.  Run For The Nation to be held on 22 May 2010. Participation is by registration with the organizers.

2.  The Global Day of Prayer to be held in Stadium Malawati on 23 May 2010. Admission by Ticket Only. We were told that tickets for this event have all been given out. (Sorry. There are still tickets available for the event. Please contact your church pastors.) Ticket holders are encouraged to go. If you cannot make it, please return the tickets to your pastors so that it can be given to those who wish to attend.

Please read earlier posts for details.

In line with this call for national prayer organised by our national Christian leaders, we encourage all Christians to unite with one another in prayer and intercession for our nation in this whole month of May.

God Bless Malaysia. 

ON ANOTHER NOTE, tomorrow is MOTHER'S DAY. The administrators wish all mothers a 

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY!

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Run For The Nation 2010

A special Prayer Run has been organised on

22 May 2010

5am - 12 noon

http://www.runforthenation.com/  

About RunNat

INTRODUCTION
Run For The Nation (also friendly known as RunNat) is a single morning running event that sees Christians praying as they run throughout selected areas in the city or town where the event is held. The Runners are grouped into teams of three and each Team is required to cover a 5km run of a preselected route passing by homes, schools, commercial areas, government buildings, religious sites and other places of interest. As the Team runs, one will lead in prayer while the other two will agree. With the aim to cover most grounds, the Run adopts the relay style by using Prayer Cards in replacement of batons.

THE BIRTH OF RUNNAT
RunNat was started by a group of Christians who are committed to bring revival to our land, Malaysia. It was first implemented in October 2007 by a local church among its church members where 105 Runners signed up and prayed for their neighbourhood as they completed the 40km Run. In 2009, RunNat went nationwide involving 14 state capitals in the country with the guidance and leadership of each state’s RunNat Committee; each group running in their neighbouring areas simultaneously covering the places with prayer and successfully covered 1,010km in Malaysia. All these were made possible by God’s Grace upon all the Runners, Volunteers and Working Committee.

IN 2010
RunNat, in partnership with Sports Partnership Malaysia (SPM) and Global Day Of Prayer (GDOP), organises yet another nationwide Running event to embrace the importance of prayer for our nation in times like these. This time round, there will be two parts of the Prayer Run – Community Run and Torch Run. There will be teams running in the community which they live in (Community Run) and another teams running across the nation through the highways (Torch Run). These Runs are united in one purpose: To pray for our people, communities, and country.

THEIR HOPE
United from all walks of life and different parts of the country, we gather to make a difference in our nation – Malaysia. And we hope that you will join us in heeding God’s Calling for our country.

The Global Day of Prayer 2010

The Committee of the GDOP Malaysia, is organising this time for corporate prayer, joining thousands of Christian worldwide to call upon our Lord God to heal our lands. Let us join in this exciting event and pray that God will forgive us, bless us and heal our land so that He can send us Revival.

Click here to read the source of this flyer and to get more details : THE GLOBAL DAY OF PRAYER 2010

Click here for link to : THE GLOBAL DAY OF PRAYER INTERNATIONAL SITE

Pray globally, gather locally

A rising movement of prayer for renewal and revival has swept across Africa and the earth like an incoming tide. In 2008, more than 250 million Christians in 204 countries joined in repentance and prayer on the third Global Day of Prayer. The echoes of desperate prayer for transformation sounded from stadiums, open fields, community centers and private houses. These prayers have the power to transform our world and to fill the nations with the glory of God.

On May 31th Pentecost Sunday 2009, Believers gathered in every country of the world to pray. On 23 May 2010, God is again calling the nations from the North, South, East and West to embark on this prayer journey with Him. God is moving in His awesome power, and He is challenging us to be part of this journey. It is a journey that is not about us, but about a world in desperate need for His glory and compassionate love. It is a call to respond to His invitation in 2 Chronicles 7:14 to humble ourselves, pray, seek His face and turn from our wicked ways. May He hear our prayers, forgive our sins and heal our land.

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Read the Article published in The Star Online :

Christians nationwide to celebrate Global Day of Prayer

A Call To Intercede For Our Nation

This is a forwarded mail sent to us. Let us take heed to the prophetic message and intercede for our nation.

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Dear Leaders and Co Leaders, May the Lord bless you all for your faithful services. I am writing to request that during the koinos time, prayers for our nation or national issues be prayed with fervency. I have included an excellent prophectic revelation which I feel is the actual state of condition of our nation and our churches...... The Intercessors at the 24/7 Prayer House in Kenya have been fasting and praying for Malaysia since the 5 January, 2010 for 40 days.  There was a very, very strong burden for Malaysia and during their intercession there was much weeping and crying out for this nation.   The following is the message they received from the Lord for Malaysia: Malaysia is at a very important crossroads.  The Lord says that He has been so faithful to the nation of Malaysia.  He has protected Malaysia in 3 areas: 1.        The principalities over Malaysia have tried to cause racial dissension.  Feelings were stirred in the hearts of the people to rise up for destruction but because of God’s grace, He has prevented this destruction from happening. 2.       God has protected Malaysia from natural calamities when the surrounding regions have been hit by such disasters. 3.       God has protected the church.  Seeing that you are in a Muslim land, the church has a high measure of freedom thus far.  Many times the enemy has tried to come up to close in on the church but God has not permitted it. ·     God’s faithfulness and favor towards Malaysia is not because the Church has been praying. In fact, the Church in Malaysia has entered into a comfort zone. The Church is so contented and so comfortable and in slumber.  There is prayerlessness in the church and she is not carrying the burden that God has for the “cousins” in the land.  Most of the prayers that take place in the churches are personal prayers but not a burden for the nation and the lost. Warning from the Lord: The veil of protection over Malaysia is slowly giving way over this land.   The heavens over Malaysia have already begun to close. The burning of the churches is but a tip of the ice-berg of what the enemy is wanting to do over this nation.  There is a looming judgment waiting to take place over this land if intercessors do not arise. Teaching on Abraham pleading for Sodom & Gomorrah  Abraham prayed for Sodom & Gomorrah but his prayers could not deliver the cities.  His prayers alone could not prevent the judgment of God upon the cities.  Abraham was not living in Sodom & Gomorrah.  The people of the land themselves need to arise to intercede for their own land.  Unfortunately, there was no one in the land who took up the burden to pray for their cities and the cities were destroyed. Application to Malaysia: Only the prayers of the people in Malaysia can deliver their land.  This burden has to be taken up by the  Malaysians themselves.  They have to arise to pray for their land, cry out to God, influence the people and to tell them that the nation is at an important crossroads.  Tell the people that the next 5 years is so very important.  They either arise to a very, very powerful revival or slide in the other way. God’s will is for Malaysia to rise up to her destiny (being a “Rainbow Nation”) and for a great revival to sweep through this land.  Our brothers from other nations are just here to help us “PUSH”.  They are like “midwives” to help the Malaysian Church push until they see the baby born (the destiny of Malaysia).  The Malaysian Church has to pray and intercede to open the heavens over Malaysia.  To see revival, we need the heavens to be open.  Prayer will open the heavens.  The enemy will try to hinder our prayers but we must persevere and pray until we see the revival. PROPHETIC WORD CONCERNING PENANG, MALAYSIA Penang is like the umbilical cord.  Just as an umbilical cord supplies nourishment to the baby, Penang provides life to sow prayer and seeds for the revival in Malaysia.  The baby about to be born is the revival that God has planned for the nation. The Lord is asking the Church in Penang, “Are you willing to pay the price for the revival to come?” Penang is also like the church in Pergamum where it was mentioned that the “seat of Satan” was there in the city.  Penang has attracted the enemy to this place.  The Lord wants to raise up prayer warriors in this city to stand in the gap. Teaching on Altars  In times of judgment, people were to raise up altars to reverse the effects, to bring about healing for the land.  There are 4 altars that need to be raised up at a time like this: 1.        Personal altar:  We are the temple of the Holy Spirit for the Holy Spirit indwells us.  We need to activate our personal altar.  We need to pray everyday.  Develop your personal prayer life. Pray at least one hour a day.  Jesus asked his disciples, “Could you not tarry with me one hour?” 2.       Family altar:  Husband, wife, children need to gather together to pray.  We need to establish the family altar.  Exercise authority over your household in problem areas.  When men break faith with their wives, there is no family altar and this has great impact upon the children (Malachi 2:13-16).  Family prayers will affect your neighbours and neigbourhood as well. 3.       Church altar:  My house shall be called a House of Prayer for all nations (Isaiah 56:7).  The strength of the church is not measured by how many members, how much money or how powerful the pastor is.  It is measured by how strong the prayer life of the individuals in the church.  Very few people at the prayer meetings, a common sight in our churches.   Prayer meeting is for everyone, not just certain groups of people. God wants to establish the Territorial Church  (territorial altar) in the city to impact the city.  There needs to be a unity among the churches in the area or city.  The territorial church can deal with the principality over the area and thus have great impact over the area or city. If all cities have territorial altars then every city will begin to experience transformation. 4.       National altar:  People from the various territories or regions that have set up their altars will need to gather together to form the national altar.  The prayers that rise from the national altar will greatly impact the nation. Finally, let’s take heed of God’s Word concerning watchmen who are not doing the work of watchmen. God has called us to be watchmen on the wall, to warn the people of impending judgment or danger.  Let us not be like the watchmen as described in Isaiah 56:9-12.  If we are like watchmen who are blind and dogs that cannot bark or shepherds who lack understanding, then the “beasts of the field…… the beast of the forest” will come and devour our land!   Take heed, Church in Malaysia!!!!  The Lord has spoken through his prophets (Amos 3:7).

Message From A Regular Worshipper of 20 Years

This is a Comment posted in CT in the article, "Calvary Church Makes The News Again". We have made some arrangements to the paragraphing of this Comment for easy reading but the contents are left unchanged.
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I was a regular worshipper in CC for more then 20years. It saddens me to read, see and hear all that is happening. From what I read in the newspaper it is very shameful for our church to make headlines not for something good but for something very disgraceful …..not once but twice. I am sure there will be many many more.

Before leaving, the last time I noticed that the church worshippers were decreasing rapidly. In the different ministries such as the choir, ushers…just to name a few. It saddens me deeply to see all have joint other churches and even sadder to know and see some has even stopped going to church altogether. I have heard of members saying....we have to face people outside church and they are asking what is happening in CC, why is your Pastor still preaching, has he no shame?….Hasn’t he step down while he can?....Why no authorities step in?.....

All pastors are the same better stay home and talk to God then go church no point went all the pastors cheat our $.Tithes? Where does all the $$ go? ...... (I think somebody should publish a book called “Questions and Answer handbook for Christian” I will buy the 1st publication) .

I was taught that as Christian we are not suppose to bad mouth the church.....When I speak the truth about what is happening in CC it saddens me deeply...Now that I know my scarifies is going for club/gym memberships, business class trips, luxury living, etc, I have stop giving to tithes, all the different pledges in CC but do more charity outside, at least I know where my $$ is going and I get to help the needy....tho it may be small but the satisfaction is there. Many small churches I visited are in need for $$ not for comfort but for basic needs for their church as for CC the $$ is there but SP does not know how to appreciate it (ie new carpet, new pews, new AV system – maybe somebody can enlighten us how much did it cost etc). Why do we need a big church (with member decreasing by the weeks) and why not more satelite churches. Do we need all the facilities in CCC when we won’t be utilising all the facilities everyday?

Why not help the Caring Ministry went they are really in need for help (every Wednesday they feed and provide food and shelter for the people on the street and spread Gods word) even for the handicap which I notice they have not been attending church because they have no transport (cant CC provide them with a permanent Van?) or the Feeding Program (in KL-is has since been stopped),

Missions (also got its Terms and Conditions – I do myself and I don’t need T&C just need $$), Calvaryland is for whom? (last heard that it has T&C-maybe that why it has less than 5 member the last time I heard) why not take the needy on the streets, abandon babies we hear from the news or even their mothers together as a temporary shelter until they are able to support their little ones and themselves or even start an orphanage or even an old folks home (full time and not like sunshine home-day care centre) (our members are not getting younger-show some appreciation to them after all they started our church.

Even when we make a collection it does not go to the rightful people……but make someones (no need names mention as we all know who we are talking about-as the saying goes-siapa makan cili dialah terasa pedas) life even better then it is already…..

I pray that all will end soon before judgement day. Have a conscience and repent while you still can and do the right thing. Enough is enough the buck stops here.